Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie on the themes of her new novel, Dream Depend: “I wanted to write about women’s lives. And the reality of it is that for many women, the men in their lives in some ways, shape their lives.”
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Nigerian author Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s first three novels gained prizes and significant acclaim. Two have been optioned for films, and one, Americanah, offered greater than one million copies within the U.S. alone. However then, the phrases stopped.
“I went through what people like to call writer’s block, which is an expression I do not like because I’m very superstitious,” Adichie informed Morning Version host Michel Martin.
Ultimately, she wrote speeches and essays on feminism, human rights and grief, even a kids’s e-book. However one other novel eluded her till now.
“Writing fiction is the love of my life. It’s the thing that I think gives me meaning. And it’s quite different. I mean, the entire process is very different from writing nonfiction with fiction. It’s magical.”
Her new novel, Dream Depend, her first since 2013, tells the interconnected tales of 4 girls: three with ties to Nigeria, the fourth to Guinea. Their names are Chiamaka, Zikora, Omelogor and Kadiatou. However even earlier than the characters got here to her, she says, a phrase had lodged in her thoughts, ready to be put to make use of. It turned the primary sentence of her e-book.
“I have always longed to be known, truly known by another human being,” Adichie writes, reciting the set of phrases that had been floating in her head for years. “I knew I would write something with that as kind of the kernel of the story,” she mentioned.
Regardless of contemplating herself lucky to be identified by the folks in her life, the passing of her father in 2020 made Adichie query how nicely she actually knew herself and others.
“When I heard the news of my father’s death, I threw myself down on the ground and I was pounding the floor. And I did not realize I was doing this. And afterwards I was shocked by it because I think if you’d asked me how I would react to losing my father, I think I would have said that I would just go numb and completely cold,” Adichie mentioned.
Dream Depend, largely set within the Washington D.C., space through the pandemic, explores the wishes of its 4 protagonists — and the way they arrive to grasp the opposite by means of their experiences with mates, household and lovers.
Adichie explains it is not a lot that girls are unknowable: “Women in general are more likely to have richer interior lives and are also socialized to just sort of embrace more complexity emotionally,” she mentioned of her characters. “It may be that if men were raised differently in general, they might also have that kind of rich interiority, but I think women in general have more of it.”
This interview has been calmly edited for size and readability and contains excerpts from the dialog that didn’t air within the broadcast.
Michel Martin: We first spoke after Americanah, you’ve got been within the public eye for a few years now. What’s it wish to publish a novel now versus in the beginning of your profession?
Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: Nicely, I really feel older and hopefully wiser. There’s one thing extra intense about it as a result of I have never written a novel in so a few years. That is my first novel in 11 years… And so having lastly completed a novel feels as if I’m reunited with myself. As a result of once I could not write, I felt that I used to be shut out from myself.
Martin: Inform us concerning the 4 girls round whom you organized the e-book.
Adichie: Chiamaka is a Nigerian lady who lives within the U.S. She’s a journey author who needs that she have been a greater author than she is. And he or she’s very privileged. She comes from a really rich household. Her finest buddy, Zikora, who lives in Washington, D.C. and is a lawyer, is sort of totally different from her. Omelogor may be very sensible. She’s Chiamaka’s cousin and lives in Nigeria. She’s a really profitable banker. She’s good and in addition very unconventional. And the fourth character, this can be a character that is most valuable to me, is Kadiatou. She’s from Guinea. And he or she is an immigrant within the U.S.,and he or she experiences this very painful factor.
Martin: She’s [Kadiatou] primarily based on one thing that occurred with Nafissatou Diallo, a lodge employee who accused the then head of the IMF and in addition (French) presidential hopeful Dominique Strauss-Kahn or so-called “DSK,” she accused him of sexual assault in 2011. She was a lodge cleaner and he or she went into his room and mentioned that he assaulted her. He was, actually, arrested however then the fees have been dropped as a result of all this stuff emerged about how her journey and so forth, a minimum of within the eyes of the prosecution, made her an unreliable witness… However that is earlier than the MeToo motion. Inform us why this was so pricey to you.
Adichie: After I first heard the story of this lady who had accused this very highly effective man of assault, I adopted it very intently. I felt linked to her for apparent causes. She’s fairly totally different from me. She’s from Guinea; I am from Nigeria. She’s Muslim; I am Christian. She’s working class; I am not. However she felt to me fairly acquainted and knowable, and I felt protecting of her. Nevertheless it wasn’t till the case was dropped that I simply felt one thing like rage. It turned, for me, not nearly her. . So this character that I’ve written, I’ve truly actually invented the character. The character isn’t her. I imply, other than the tiny kernel of the story of the assault.
Martin: Sure, you are very clear about that.
Adichie: I feel for me, that character is not only about Nafissatou Diallo, it is also about all the ladies. There are such a lot of girls like her internationally who, as a result of they’re powerless, should not given a sure form of human dignity. I actually felt enraged by how she was lined within the press, how she was handled, and the way she was very simply labeled a liar. And that label then turned a form of encompassing factor as all she was was a liar.
Martin: We have had a really critical dialog right here, however I do should say the e-book may be very humorous. The boys do not come off significantly nicely on this e-book… A few of these males are simply trash, I am sorry.
Adichie: However you understand what? I wished to write down about girls’s lives. And the truth of it’s that for a lot of girls, the boys of their lives in some methods form their lives. Usually girls are socialized to be those who compromise extra, who maintain again their desires for folks they love, that form of factor. I am additionally usually fascinated by girls who’re in relationships that, wanting in from the skin, you may inform is simply deeply unhealthy for her. However someway she finds methods to justify to herself.
Martin: I’ll ask, are any of those girls you?
Adichie: All of them. I imply, Michel, all of them.
