Mosab Abu Toha and his spouse and kids are at present residing in Syracuse, N.Y., the place he’s a fellow on the College of Syracuse.
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5 days after the Oct. 7, 2023, assaults, Palestinian poet Mosab Abu Toha fled his residence in Gaza, alongside along with his spouse and their three younger kids. Two weeks later, their residence was bombed, leaving it in rubble.
“I say that I am houseless, but I am not homeless,” Abu Toha says. “I have a home to return to, which is Palestine.”
Abu Toha and his household initially took shelter in a refugee camp. When the camp was bombed, they moved to a college that had been become a shelter by the UN Reduction and Works Company for Palestinian Refugees. Finally, he was capable of get passports that enabled the household to depart Gaza. However whereas crossing into Egypt, Abu Toha says he was detained for 2 days and crushed by Israeli troopers who claimed he was a member of Hamas.
Abu Toha has chronicled his life and his household’s journey in The New Yorker, The New York Occasions and The Washington Submit, and in addition in his new guide of poetry, Forest of Noise. He says that as a Palestinian who was born in a refugee camp, “My losses started the day I was born.”
“I lost my childhood,” he says. “I’m a Palestinian refugee who lost 31 members of my extended family, who was wounded in an airstrike in 2009 when I was 16 years old, who lost his house, who lost 300 friends.”
Abu Toha and his spouse and kids are at present residing in Syracuse, N.Y., the place he’s a fellow on the College of Syracuse. He says the choice to depart his prolonged household behind in Gaza was one of many hardest selections he is ever made.
“If there was one reason why I left Gaza, it was just to save my children because I couldn’t provide food to everyone in Gaza,” he says. “If I’m inside [Gaza], that’s true, that I could be close to my parents and my siblings and my relatives and my students, too. But I can’t do anything when I’m there except just to stay close to them, to die with them, to suffer with them.”
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Interview highlights
On his members of the family who’re nonetheless in Gaza
My household in Gaza has been devastated. … My father and two of my siblings moved from north Gaza to Gaza Metropolis. And whereas one other sister of mine along with her three kids are nonetheless in north Gaza, and in a single voice message that my sister managed to ship me, seven days after I misplaced contact along with her, I may hear the Israeli gunfire. I may hear the airstrikes. I may hear the artillery shelling. …
Folks don’t really feel protected whereas they’re inside their homes as a result of they … might be bombed at any second, identical to what occurred to our home final October. But additionally, they cannot even depart the home to search for meals and search for medication and search for water. That is the case of not a household or two. It is about a whole lot, a whole lot and a whole lot of households.
On making an attempt to consolation his three younger kids
I used to be capable of depart Gaza in December final yr, and we lived in Egypt for about six months earlier than we got here to the States. And the primary few days after we left Gaza, the youngsters stored asking about their grandparents, about their cousins and about each relative they knew. Typically they might convey up the names of their buddies. And by the way in which, one in every of my kids misplaced a really shut pal of hers, and I did not inform her about that. It is actually horrific. … I am undecided if we return to Gaza someday, she is going to ask about this pal of hers from kindergarten. So after we got here right here to the States, I seen that my kids stopped asking plenty of questions on what’s occurring in Gaza. And I believe that is good and unhealthy on the similar time.
On the trauma of his childhood resurfacing as a father
I am somebody who has by no means lived in peace in Gaza. I imply, the one sound I may hear was the drones buzzing. … After I go to the ocean to swim with buddies and even to have a picnic there, I may see the gunboats. Every part in Gaza jogs my memory of the occupation. … My horrifying childhood formed me. And I am nonetheless traumatized from childhood. And I am additionally traumatized as a father who may barely shield his kids in Gaza. I used to be taken away from my kids. And I imply, I may see myself within the eyes of my kids once they scream. Every time they hit an airstrike, every time they get hungry as a result of there may be not sufficient meals. … The hunger began early on after October seventh. I spent plenty of time on the street in search of meals, in search of water for my kids. So it’s horrible to be a toddler in Gaza.
On gaining access to meals that folks in Gaza don’t have
If you eat one thing that different individuals do not have entry to, it feels horrible. I imply, once more, I am not residing on my own. I am not residing alone. After we left for Egypt, I used to be sitting on the desk with my spouse and children and consuming and my son … would cease consuming and ask, “Is my grandmother eating?” And he would begin crying. I imply, this can be a little one who’s 8 years previous and he has empathy with different individuals. … And one time he began to cry asking whether or not his buddies from the neighborhood have been nonetheless alive. … It’s horrible to be a father or mother in Gaza.
On his use of the phrase “genocide” [Editor’s note: “Genocide” is a legal term. While Israel has been accused of genocide at the International Court of Justice, the Israeli government strongly denies the accusation and the court has yet to make a final ruling, although a preliminary ruling found it “plausible” that Israel has violated the Genocide Convention.]
I do know that it’s a controversial time period, however it’s not controversial after we see, particularly now with what’s occurring in north Gaza, the place Israel separated Gaza Metropolis from north Gaza, the place they’re bombing individuals proper now. So I believe the phrase ‘holocaust’ began for use, I believe, 20 years after the Holocaust occurred. So why do we actually have to attend till the genocide has all that it must be referred to as a genocide with a view to name it that time period? And I am questioning whether or not the phrase actually is missing right here, as a result of what Israel has been doing and that is discovered within the rhetoric of the Israeli officers — they need to exterminate individuals in Gaza. They minimize off electrical energy. What do you name it once you minimize off electrical energy, once you minimize off meals, once you minimize off water, once you once you goal ambulances? I imply, what do you name this? I imply, do we actually have all must die to ensure that them to name it genocide? I imply, it is sufficient, the way in which they’re killing us in Gaza.
On why he doesn’t need to speak about Hamas
Hamas is a faction. … No matter they are saying, they aren’t representing all Palestinians. So the rhetoric they’re utilizing, they characterize themselves. Regardless of the Israelis are saying, they’re saying it as a rustic. So no matter Hamas is saying, no matter they’re doing, they aren’t doing it as a state, we would not have a military. So you possibly can say Hamas will not be the Palestinians. And I would not have to agree with the whole lot that Hamas says as a result of I am not Hamas. …
Israel [is] besieging us and bombing us and stopping us from constructing an airport. Why do not we speak about these items? Let’s cease speaking about Hamas. Let’s speak about what occurred earlier than October seventh. What occurred earlier than Hamas was established in 1987? Hamas will not be the reason for the issue. This has been happening for many years, not for a yr. Everybody on the planet ought to perceive this isn’t about October seventh. And even when there’s a ceasefire, let’s be clear about this, even when there’s a ceasefire, this doesn’t suggest that there can be peace, as a result of the identical issues that led to October seventh, the occupation, the deprivation of the Palestinian individuals within the West Financial institution, within the Gaza Strip, it nonetheless continues.
Heidi Saman and Thea Chaloner produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey tailored it for the net.
