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Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, Wolves and West Ham in disaster, so what is going on unsuitable for them? – Between the Traces
The Tycoon Herald > Sports > Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, Wolves and West Ham in disaster, so what is going on unsuitable for them? – Between the Traces
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Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, Wolves and West Ham in disaster, so what is going on unsuitable for them? – Between the Traces

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By Tycoon Herald 13 Min Read Published October 20, 2025
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Liverpool’s issues mounted as Manchester United condemned them to a fourth consecutive defeat for the primary time since 2014. They aren’t the one Premier League membership in disaster proper now.

Nottingham Forest have gone from a Champions League combat to a relegation battle, with Sean Dyche set to turn out to be their third head coach in a turbulent season following Ange Postecoglou’s sacking.

Wolves are winless after eight video games on the backside of the desk and there are points at West Ham too, with followers staging protests as Nuno Espirito Santo fights to show their season round.

This week in Between the Traces, the brand new Sky Sports activities strand unpicking the info behind the largest tales in soccer, we pull out the important thing points behind every membership’s struggles this season.

Liverpool: Salah, Wirtz woe and defensive dip

When does a lack of type turn out to be a decline? Mohamed Salah’s struggles put him close to the highest of Liverpool’s listing of issues.

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Jamie Carragher offers his verdict on Mohamed Salah’s decline

Salah produced one of many nice particular person Premier League campaigns final time period, instantly contributing to a whopping 55 per cent of Liverpool’s targets by scoring 29 occasions and registering 18 assists.

The drop-off has been stark. Salah has gone seven consecutive Premier League video games with out scoring a non-penalty objective for the primary time in his Liverpool profession. Jamie Carragher says that, at 33, he ought to now not be thought of a assured starter.

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Curtis Jones was wheeling away in celebration earlier than Salah’s miss

His numbers present an alarming decline relative to earlier seasons and, though he did spurn two good possibilities at Anfield on Sunday, his lack of targets is not only all the way down to poor ending.

Extra worrying is that his anticipated targets are trending the identical means as his precise targets. Salah’s photographs have dropped off and the underlying information exhibits he isn’t getting something like as many high-quality possibilities as in earlier seasons.

Mohamed Salah's number's are notably down this season
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Salah’s quantity’s are notably down this season

That regardless of the £116m addition of Florian Wirtz, who was introduced in to deliver creativity, in addition to a objective menace, from midfield.

Curiously, the 22-year-old has created possibilities at the next charge than he did at Bayer Leverkusen. He’s getting extra touches within the opposition field too. However he’s but to register a objective or help and is much less concerned typically than he was at his earlier membership. His general touches, passes and take-ons are all down on final season.

Wirtz must construct chemistry along with his new team-mates and Alexander Isak and Hugo Ekitike discover themselves in the identical place. The tragic lack of Diogo Jota was, in fact, utterly unexpected however are Liverpool affected by altering an excessive amount of?

There was instability in defence too. Trent Alexander-Arnold’s creativity is a giant miss, significantly for Salah, with whom he had a superb understanding on Liverpool’s proper flank, however his exit has additionally brought about defensive upheaval. Conor Bradley and Jeremie Frimpong have struggled. As has Milos Kerkez, who has been most popular to Andrew Robertson at left-back.

With the beforehand reliable Ibrahima Konate and Virgil van Dijk taking it in turns to have poor video games at centre-back, Liverpool have come to look weak, conceding two or extra targets in eight video games out of 12 within the Premier League because the begin of Might.

Liverpool have conceded two or more goals in eight Premier League games since May this year
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Liverpool have conceded two or extra targets in eight Premier League video games since Might this 12 months

“Liverpool are just not at the races at all defensively,” mentioned Carragher on Sky Sports activities. “Until they fix that, they can’t win the league.”

Forest: Three kinds in 5 weeks?

Nottingham Forest have gone from combating for a Champions League spot to battling in opposition to relegation. A turbulent season has already claimed two head coaches, with Ange Postecoglou sacked after simply 39 days and Sean Dyche now arriving to regular the ship.

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Evangelos Marinakis has reworked the membership’s fortunes since his takeover however the chaos of the previous couple of months has undoubtedly had an impression on the pitch, with Forest within the relegation zone and their gamers making an attempt to adapt to dizzying modifications of favor.

Forest’s success below Nuno Espirito Santo was constructed on a definite tactical method emphasising direct assaults over possession however Marinakis opted for the whole reverse with Postecoglou.

The previous Spurs boss tried to overtake their type, eschewing directness for brief passing, build-up assaults and a far better emphasis on possession. However his gamers struggled to regulate, with Forest failing to win any of his eight video games in cost.

Dyche’s appointment alerts one other reversal. The previous Everton head coach’s method is rather more in step with Nuno’s, though there are nonetheless vital variations. Dyche’s groups sometimes play greater up the pitch, proactively aiming to drive excessive turnovers by urgent, whereas Nuno’s groups are extra passive.

Ange Postecoglou and Sean Dyche
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Sean Dyche is about to interchange Postecoglou as Nottingham Forest boss

Postecoglou’s efforts to show Forest right into a urgent workforce had been unsuccessful, leaving them defensively open all too usually.

Dyche might want to get his messages throughout extra rapidly to ease the sense of disaster, particularly with video games in opposition to Porto, Bournemouth and Manchester United to come back within the subsequent 10 days.

Wolves: Cunha missed as signings wrestle

Forest have at the very least received a Premier League sport this season regardless of their struggles. For Wolves, the wait continues after a 2-0 reverse in opposition to Sunderland which stored them backside, on solely two factors from eight video games, with followers fearing the worst.

Fer Lopez looks on dejected at Molineux
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Fer Lopez seems on dejected throughout a current sport at Molineux

Their struggles should not significantly shocking. The Sky Sports activities supercomputer predicted Wolves can be relegated in 18th place at first of the marketing campaign following a summer time of high-profile gross sales together with these of Matheus Cunha and Rayan Ait-Nouri.

Cunha and Ait-Nouri should not the one beforehand essential gamers to have left Molineux within the final two years. Nelson Semedo, Pablo Sarabia, Pedro Neto and Mario Lemina have additionally gone.

More than 60 per cent of Wolves' goal involvements in their last two full seasons came from players that are no longer at the club
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Greater than 60 per cent of Wolves’ objective involvements of their final two full seasons got here from gamers which are now not on the membership

In complete, 108 of Wolves’ 178 targets and assists throughout the final two full seasons within the Premier League had been scored by gamers now not on the membership now, a share of over 60 per cent.

The most recent spherical of gross sales benefitted the membership financially, permitting them to make a web revenue of £20.9m in the summertime switch window. However the gamers introduced in as replacements are struggling to ship.

Fer Lopez, Tolu Arokodare and Jhon Arias have solely contributed one help between them to date within the Premier League. Jorgen Strand Larsen, needed by Newcastle throughout the summer time, has additionally drawn a clean after making his mortgage transfer from Celta Vigo everlasting.

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The result’s that Wolves have solely discovered the online 5 occasions in eight video games to date, leaving them susceptible to getting minimize off on the backside of the desk regardless of head coach Vitor Pereira signing a brand new three-year contract final month.

West Ham: Followers see underachievement

Whereas Wolves have pinned their hopes on the coach who took them into the brand new season, West Ham have made a change, with Nuno changing the axed Graham Potter final month.

The membership hope the previous Forest boss will change their fortunes following a poor begin to the season however followers are staging protests over broader, long-standing points.

West Ham captain Jarrod Bowen shows the strain against Chelsea
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West Ham have had a poor begin to the season

The transfer to the London Stadium has elevated the membership’s income however the transfer stays a supply of discontent for a lot of followers.

The West Ham hierarchy have invested closely because the stadium transfer in 2016, recording the sixth-highest web spend amongst Premier League golf equipment, forward of even Newcastle and Liverpool.

West Ham rank sixth among Premier League clubs for net spend on transfers since teh summer of 2016
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West Ham have a web spend of practically £600m since 2016

However, though their Convention League success introduced silverware, West Ham proceed to underperform domestically relative to their expenditure, with questionable recruitment choices contributing to a run of solely three top-half Premier League finishes in 9 seasons on the London Stadium.

West Ham have finished in the bottom half of the Premier League table more than the top half since 2016/17
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West Ham have completed within the backside half of the Premier League desk greater than the highest half since 2016/17

For now, Nuno will proceed his efforts to show their season round. However clearly there may be work to do in the long run to rebuild relations between followers and the membership’s possession.

Learn final week’s Between the Traces

The place are all of the English No 9s? Final week we took a take a look at the nationwide workforce’s reliance on Harry Kane and the worrying decline in targets scored and minutes performed by English strikers.

In a bonus Between the Traces, we additionally checked out Cristiano Ronaldo’s outstanding scoring charge and assessed his possibilities of changing into the primary participant in historical past to succeed in 1,000 recorded targets.

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